There are roughly 95 individual files comprising what was categorized as "Church Records" that were found in the William B. Bogardus Collection. After a quick first glance it appears that most of the individuals found in these records are already included in the Brouwer Genealogy Database and that the most beneficial way to use these files would be to use them to point out and highlight the actual sources that were cited. Brouwer researchers will probably want to access and review these sources themselves anyway and so this exercise will simply be a way of bringing awareness to these sources. There will have to be a number of individual posts dedicated to this set of files.
Marriage Record of the Lutheran Churches of Athens and West Camp, N.Y., 1705-1899. We'll use this file to introduce anyone new to researching church records in New York to the work of Arthur C. M. Kelly and the publications of Kinship Press. Although I cannot find this exact title in the current catalog, the entries found in this file are probably found in Marriage Record of the Lutheran Churches; Zion Lutheran Church & St. Paul's Lutheran, Greene and Ulster County, New York, 1705-1899. Arthur C. M. Kelly has been transcribing New York records since 1968. You will find dozens of titles at the Kinship Press website.
Records of the Reformed Dutch Church of Mayfield. The Town of Mayfield is in present day Fulton County, New York which was created out of Montgomery County in 1838. The cover card refers to the "Vosburgh Collection," which is referring to works of transcribed church records made by the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society and edited by Royden Woodward Vosburgh. This is a large "collection" of numerous titles that were compiled during the early 1900s. Many are available in digital format to members of the NYG&BS through their website's e-Library. They have also been filmed by and are available through the Family History Library. Titles can be found online in the FHL Catalog.
Records of the First Presbyterian Church at Ballston in Ballston Center, Saratoga Co., New York. R. W. Vosburgh and the NYG&BS. See the FHL Catalog.
Baptismal Record of the Reformed Church, Claverack, New York, 1727-1899. Arthur C. M. Kelly, Kinship Books. Also available through loan to local Family History Library Centers.
Marriage Record of the Reformed Church, Claverack, New York, 1727-1899. Arthur C. M. Kelly, Kinship Press and in the FHL Catalog.
We'll start this series with these five files. The pages photocopied and/or notes taken in each file cover the persons named Brouwer, Brower or Brewer in each publication (some have a few other names). As mentioned above, researchers will probably want to access the actual publications themselves as there may be other records of interest found in each one (and to double check accuracy). I realize that doing so may involve a cost incurred by either purchasing a publication or in renting a microfilm or book from the Family History Library. In this regard I want to make it perfectly clear that as the author of this blog I receive no compensation from any seller or organization mentioned.
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Sunset at Gowanus Bay
Sunset at Gowanus Bay, Henry Gritten, 1851
Tuesday, September 3, 2013
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Hi Charles. I think that I contacted you years ago, but I wanted your opinion. I believe it possible that the Jean Crocheron family is related to the Pierre Cresson family. We see, for instance, that early church records occasionally spell both names as, "Creison." For example, the 1658 marriage record for Susanna and Nicolas de la Pleine spells Susanna's maiden name as "Creison." She was a daughter of Pierre. The 1677 baptismal record for the same New York Collegiate Church spells Marie Crocheron's name as "Creison" as well (she the daughter of Jean Crocheron who married Jean Bodine). Furthermore, Pierre's family had lived in the Delft area of the Netherlands prior to coming to America, and some say that there is evidence that the Crocheron family came from the Zele area, which is only 100 miles or so from Delft. What do you think?
ReplyDeleteWith best wishes,
David A. Harris
David, I assume you're asking me, and "Charles," was a typo. I have not researched either the Crocheron or Cresson families enough to say much here other than I don't know of any records that actually might lead to the conclusion that they are related.
DeleteWith regards to the various renderings of the two surnames, I would just remind you that spelling and punctuation was not standardized back in the 17th and 18th centuries, and that clerks and ministers and other scribes that actually wrote the records we reference, spelled phonetically, and that varied considerably among them often dependent on their own ethnicity, meaning whether they were Dutch or German or English or French, etc. I would add that my own personal observation is that Dutch recorders seemed to have an especially difficult time with French and Walloon names. Lacking any harder evidence I'd suggest that the occasional similar recordings of these otherwise different surnames is nothing more than a coincidence. I'd add that scores of early New Netherland and colonial NY, NJ families have their origins in Europe within 100-200 miles or so of each other, which in the U.S. doesn't seem like a far distance, but in pre-industrial Europe was another matter. It would be another thing if they actually came from the same village. The modern day country of the Netherlands is only about 164 miles across (east to west). The distance from Cologne to Amsterdam is only 161 miles.
You'll want to look for more convincing records that might link the two families. You really can't trust the renderings of French names by Dutch scribes. And the families did not come from the same village or town.
Also, https://www.wiewaswie.nl/ is a good place to search for records but one has to try a variety of spellings for the same name.
ReplyDeleteChris,
ReplyDeleteThank you for your response and sorry for the typo. I agree, one must always have or at least very good circumstantial evidence, but it sounds like you have never heard of a connection between these two families.
With best wishes,
David